Hi Sierra,

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Now wait a minute...there's the Prophets mentioned again...one of the ministry gifts given to the Church until we all come in the unity of the faith unto a perfect man in the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. But we don't need Prophets!...prophecy has ceased!

Well if you're gonna discard prophets, discard pastors, evangelists, and teachers too. You can't pluck one out and leave the others in...God didn't give you that option!


No one is discarding prophets ,a prophet is someone who
proclaims God's message ,which is complete (perfect) and not lacking one word in all its entirety.

This would include the addition of new prophecy. God is no longer speaking thru diverse manners all prophecy which concerns future events has been Given.

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I'd say he's talking about a perfect human stature in both cases--the perfect man, the perfecting of the saints. And so we still have the gifts for that purpose.


No one is saying that the Holy Spirit has ceased giving all gifts, I am stating that the Holy Spirit is no longer bringing new prophecy/new revelations from God in any manner what so ever.

In Christ, Garee