Labeling someone as not born again based on what church and the position on the Rapture is a little hard I'd have to say. I don't accept the Pre-tribulation view(Jesus said "after the days of tribulation"...not before), but I know in Whom I have believed. So it really doesn't matter. He's got the whole world in his hands so there's no use disputing and judging to the point of condemnation of an individual or church based on how they view this event.

I was in the U.P. of Michigan for a while, near Marquette. It's beautiful there.

The rest of the material in this discussion is interesting and worth at least some consideration. It's evident as well that a few of us contend rather strong on this (me as well, perhaps too much).