Brother John --

No, I really didn't forget the "birth from above" or the verses which point to those who are of faith being the true children of Abraham.

They used to be my mainstay in pointing out the errors of both Romanism and Fundamentalism (as a Calvinist, I considered both to be equally wrong).

But does being a "spiritual" person negate in some way the relationship we have with our physical selves? Or does it enhance it?

Thanks for the input.

Cordially in Christ,

Brother Ed

PS. It was Matthew 21: 33 - 46 which made me consider that the physical had an important part to play in our redemption and the nature of the Church.