I'm wondering why is it that every time I talk to these same people on line, something bad happens to me. After the last post, I went into my kitchen, began to cook, and two different burners caught on fire while I was out of the room - came back just in time to douse the fire before it got out of control. A few more minutes and I could have been caught in a bad situation if my kitchen had started on fire and I was still in my bedroom - I would have been trapped. I know, you all think the devil doesn't want me to hear your truth, and I think the devil wants me to shut up about Catholic truth. Still, it was pretty scary (and was it just a coincidence, hmmmm?)

baydoll, the Holy Spirit was promised to the church to provide all truths to it, at the proper time. All can be found in oral tradition. Faith is needed to believe it all though. A good Catholic source of history and examination of early church fathers would answer many of your questions but I don't believe you have personally ever really investigated them.

Why should you believe an apparition saying how Jesus will protect His remnant during the trib? I think it won't take very long for all of you to figure out once you are still here and there is no pre-trib rapture that Jesus has others plans in mind to save his people. We are to pray to Jesus for help when the time comes and He will send angels to guide us to places of protection. All I can say is give it a try if you find yourself still here long after you thought you would be raptured. What would you have to lose?