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Quote:Ga 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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Oct 1 06 8:05 AM
Quote:Vatican document Crimen Sollicitationis - Latin for The Crime of Solicitation - which laid down the Vatican's strict instructions on covering up sexual scandal.
Quote:I wasn't aware I WAS THE PROBLEM with the RCC.
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Oct 1 06 8:11 AM
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Quote:I wasn't aware I WAS THE PROBLEM with the RCC.Or is this just another deny, deflect, divert move on your part?
Oct 1 06 8:13 AM
Quote:Tan, Crimen Solicitationis dealt "specifically" with penitents who Priests tried to solict under the Seal of the Confessional. You know this, so don't act so ignorant. It has NOTHING to do with covering up any sex scandal, but it did have to do with instructions on how to deal with those things that took place under the Seal of Confession.
Oct 1 06 8:24 AM
Quote:A mental reservation is a deception that does not actually tell an untruth.It is argued for in ethics as a way to fulfill both the obligations of telling the truth and of, in justice, keeping secrets from those not entitled to know the truth, but is regarded as unjustifiable without grave reason for withholding the truth.A wide mental reservation is using equivocations and amphibologies to imply an untruth that is not actually stated.In the strict mental reservation, the speaker mentally adds some qualification to the words which he utters, and the words together with the mental qualification make a true assertion in accordance with fact. This is widely condemned.LINK
Quote:Charity and respect for the truth should dictate the response to every request for information or communication. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it.CCC 2489
Oct 1 06 8:39 AM
Quote:Matthew 23:16 (KJV) Woe unto you, [ye] blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!17 [Ye] fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. 19 [Ye] fools and blind: for whether [is] greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Oct 1 06 9:33 AM
Quote:Oh, I did notice that CS had a section about priests trading absolution for a hummer...and that section about priests brutally sodomizing BARNYARD ANIMALS was quite shocking , don't you think?
Oct 1 06 10:17 AM
Quote:73. To have the worst crime, for the penal affects, one must do the equivalent of the following: any obscene, external act, gravely sinful, perpetrated in any way by a cleric or attempted by him with youths of either sex or with brute animals (beastiality).And, yes, Tan, I have read the document. I just didn't put the same "spin" on it that you did!!
Oct 1 06 10:19 AM
Quote:And in case you're not aware, it is the Church's duty to judge these things by themselves. There's NOTHING wrong with the document. What's wrong is the way you've spun it!!
Oct 1 06 10:26 AM
Quote:What "spin" SHOULD bestiality have on it in your world?
Oct 1 06 10:28 AM
Quote:NOTHING wrong with a document, that puts EXCOMMUNICATION as the penalty for parents, children, and COWS....if they DARE to go to the police first?My dear, we OBVIOUSLY live in different universes.
Oct 1 06 10:37 AM
Oct 1 06 10:41 AM
Quote:I believe that the RCC has been going downhill ever since Nicea . . .
Oct 1 06 10:49 AM
Quote:I believe the Church has been fighting the same battles for 2000+ years now. Nothing new under the sun!! The Church marches on despite all obstacles......till the Lord returns for His Bride.
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Quote:And why did B send his lawyers into action to successfully claim "head of state" privilege?
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