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Oct 4 06 6:35 AM
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Oct 4 06 7:48 AM
Quote:Britain's Evening Standard reports that the BBC just aired a "Panorama" story about how Pope Benedict XVI, as head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, sent a "secret Vatican edict" to bishops around the world (right, like that's a group that could keep a secret if it tried),
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Oct 4 06 7:18 PM
Quote:It was an attorney's investigation that uncovered the secret Latin text.
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Oct 5 06 5:21 AM
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Quote:In truth, it was a disguisted Canon Lawyer, fed up with the CRAP who leaked the memo's to the plaintiffs in one of the trials.
Quote:. . . the document, Crimen Sollicitationis, was enforced for 20 years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he became Pope. The 39-page document, written in 1962, apparently instructed bishops how to deal with claims of child sex abuse. This includes an oath of secrecy, enforceable by excommunication, which critics claimed could hinder an outside investigation and prosecution. Tom Doyle, a canon solicitor sacked from the Vatican after he criticised its handling of child abuse, interpreted the document for the BBC. He said it was an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child abuse that emphasised the total control of the Vatican and gave no mention to the victims. But the Catholic Church said the document was not directly concerned with child abuse at all, but with the misuse of the confessional. It added that the second document, issued in 2001, clarified the law of the Church and did not hinder the investigation of allegations of child abuse. More . . .
Oct 5 06 5:25 AM
Quote:But the Catholic Church said the document was not directly concerned with child abuse at all, but with the misuse of the confessional.
Oct 5 06 7:28 AM
Oct 5 06 7:55 AM
Quote:We all know how the fundy's fleece the sheep. Put your hand on the TV set and then on your checkbook...
Oct 5 06 7:59 AM
Quote:Then call your travel agency, and book your pilgrimage to Lourdes, Medjugorgie, or Guadalupe.
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Oct 5 06 12:22 PM
Quote:Noting the 1962 document did not deal just with the confessional...
Oct 5 06 1:55 PM
Quote:Tan, the letter is about the abuse of confession and not about the crime itself. The very first paragraph of the letter states clearly that it is specifically dealing with solicitation that takes place within the act of confession:
Oct 5 06 4:49 PM
Oct 6 06 3:00 AM
Quote:How does a sheep get into a confessional?
Oct 6 06 3:52 AM
Quote:Go back and read the document again, Tan, but this time with the understanding that it is referring to those penitents who were abused within the context of a sacramental confession.
Quote:Clergy sexual abuse issues are handled by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a major department of the Vatican administration. This has been the case since the 18th century although the name of the present congregation has been changed twice during this period. It was first known as the Congregation of the Holy Inquisition. It later became known as the Congregation of the Holy Office and after Vatican II, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Cardinal Ratzinger, presently Pope Benedict XIV, had been the prefect, or head, since 1981. Although he signed the letter containing the revised norms and quite possibly had a direct role in drafting it, the procedures themselves had to be approved or promulgated by the Pope for validity and effect.There is also an over-riding omission in both the 1962 document and its descendant, the 2001 declaration. Both documents concentrate on prosecuting the alleged offenders and protecting the institutional church from the fallout of public knowledge of the crimes. Neither document approaches the far more challenging and important task of pastoral care and spiritual healing for the victims of these crimes. There is no evidence that the official Church ever issued any norms, guidelines or instructions on the pastoral care of those harmed by clergy sexual abuse.More. . .
Oct 6 06 4:32 AM
Quote:Come on, Tan, if this were not true and the letter was simply instructing bishops how to cover-up a crime, people all over the world would be screaming for the Pope himself to be put on trial.
Oct 6 06 8:52 AM
Quote:Coverup Benny IMMEDIATELY claimed diplomatic immunity, and hid behind his 200 ACRE nation state as a reason to NEVER submit to cross examination on a witness stand.
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