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Quote:Typical.
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Quote:~{Isaiah 22:20}~20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah: 21 And I will clothe him with thy robe,and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. 22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall openand none shall shutand he shall shutand none shall open The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge)
Quote:~{Revelation 3:7}7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true,he that hath the key of David, he that openethand no man shuttethand shuttethand no man openeth;The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge
Quote:~{Rev.2:7}~which say they are apostles, and are not,and hast found them liars;L-I-A-R-S
Quote:~{Revelation 2:9}~ but are the synagogue of Satan.
Quote:~{2Cor.11:13}~13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.And Their Daddy is 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore it is no great thingif his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;whose end shall be according to their works. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
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Quote:~{luke 1:1}~ Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in ordera declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,2 Even as they delivered them unto us,----The Apostles----which from the beginningwere eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; 3 It seemed good to me also,having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, ----Lukes Reason for Writing----4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things,----Verbal Teachings / Traditions----wherein thou hast been instructed.
Quote:~{Luke 6:39}~---The Blind led by the Blind---He also told them this Parable "Can a blind man lead a blind man???Will they not both, fall into a pit???A Student is not above his teacher;but everyone, who is fully trained will be like his teacherNIV
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Quote:No garee, take away the bible and we still have His Church. That's were all the authority is at. If you were to take away His Chruch(which many have tried but failed, and will continue to fail), then we would be in a bind. The Church defines the bible, the bible does'nt define the Church. Evil leaders in the past always tried to stop His Church not the bible(Stalin, Hitler, reformers).
Jan 19 04 4:31 AM
Quote:Don't like the truth? Just be Protestant and ignore it then. Oh, wait, that 's what you do already.
Jan 19 04 7:17 AM
Quote:The simple fact is that there are anti-Catholics out there who publish books, articles, etc. I proved that the piece posted by Budge was wrong and yet she never even attempted to refute that because she knows she can't.
Quote:No, what is typical is that you miss the point is that the people you are referring to actually do make mistakes, or just plain lie, about the Catholic faith. We demonstrate this and you guys never refute it. That's what is typical.
Quote:It's already happened here many times. Many times I, and other Catholics, have denounced priests and bishops for the sexual abuse of the last 40 years -- just like Protestants have denounced it.
Quote:Now, is anyone, especially Budge, actually going to develop the courage to actually defend what she posted? Probably not.
Quote: The Church defines the bible, the bible does'nt define the Church. Evil leaders in the past always tried to stop His Church not the bible(Stalin, Hitler, reformers).
Quote:It is really strange the three most hated words of satan are "it is written" why is it the same three words you hate?[/b] Good point Garee.
Jan 19 04 7:31 AM
Quote:Tell us Budge, when was the papacy "invented"?
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